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Old 09-06-2008, 03:38 AM   #31 (permalink)
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White people love telling black people what they should and should not be offended by
yeah, that's the shyt that i dont get, yet they see a black santa clause by your doorstep and they feel offended. wtf.
let me see who gets offended by this comment.
" you get a black and white dogs and breed them together...tell me why none of the litters comes out white? but you get brown, black and gray litters" why?
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:16 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Ignoralyramus it is obvious how ignorant you are of the modern music culture.


Why would hip-hop mayor be anything but a compliment?

THe SUgar Hill Gang, RUNDMC, GRANDMASTERFLASH et al
responsible for largely originating HIPHOP,

YouTube - Sugarhill Gang-Apache (Jump On It)

were the diametric
opposite of the negative stereotype you are so offended about.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:52 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Aly believe me Da Blacks don't need you taking up for them,matter of fact they despise

guys like you, that is if you ever truly hung out with them in the city, they laugh at the

white guy who makes six figures a year taking up for them like they need your help.
Yes blacks only hang out in the city too. Too funny. And of course not in the white collar workforce

My highschool was 50% black

You just dont get it either. Its not about "sticking up" for anyone
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:55 AM   #34 (permalink)
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oh my... Black people love telling white people that they are racist...
Some sure.

cre8 you want to address this one? You responded to the other
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:59 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Ignoralyramus it is obvious how ignorant you are of the modern music culture.


Why would hip-hop mayor be anything but a compliment?

THe SUgar Hill Gang, RUNDMC, GRANDMASTERFLASH et al
responsible for largely originating HIPHOP,

YouTube - Sugarhill Gang-Apache (Jump On It)

were the diametric
opposite of the negative stereotype you are so offended about.

You dont need to tell me about hip hop music. I own some. And yes even remember Sugar Hill Gang.

You dont see many positive references to Hip Hop/Rap. Used to scare people. Still does guys like Ice Cube used to be hated and harrassed. Now he is mainstream. Very rarely do you see positive references about this type of music from the right
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:56 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Some sure.

cre8 you want to address this one? You responded to the other
i have seen dark skin black people mock and be derogatory to light skin black people

i have seen white people make racist comments toward black people they know and claim to be friends

have seen black people who are friends with white people get they treated with slightly less respect

i dont want to claim to be an expert on the subject and tell people how to act and think-obama did this and it all came off as though he was an expert on the subject-i dont believe that he is

the most important american novel was huckleberry finn and the interchange between a black character and a white character was beautiful and is often mimicked in movies today

as a social worker i would drive through the poor areas of the city of wilmington

often i would see young black men walking through neighborhoods in the middle of the day

its a stark contrast to upper middle class and middle class neighborhoods
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:18 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Some sure.

cre8 you want to address this one? You responded to the other
racism was systemic throughout this country and so i would have to believe a lot of black people believe that white people are still racist on some level

if they actually analyzed their own thinking they would probably mean that most white people are prejudiced atleast in some way


and if they analyzed their own thinking they would admit that most people operate or have operated on some kind of stereotype about some kind of people at some point in their lives
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:26 AM   #38 (permalink)
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As far as Obama, I would say he probably has more first hand experience than most. Being of mixed race
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:31 AM   #39 (permalink)
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he gave an example in his speech/book that was filled with his own bias

any woman of any color

or even anybody especially any older person who is being harrassed by a beggar of any color has a right to fear that beggar..

not saying what they should do or what they should not do


you make your own assessment and you have a right to do that

not supposed to worry about changing the world at that moment
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:44 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Lets all hope he tries to promote his own racist experiences.


Afteralll I am sure blacks who have lived through egregious racism and oppression will not only get a huge kick out of it,

but may actually be offended enough to not support the black guy just because he is black.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:52 AM   #41 (permalink)
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you make your own assessment and you have a right to do that

not supposed to worry about changing the world at that moment
he did not ask the same idealism of himself when he was climbing through the slimeball politics of chicago-no reforming there

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Old 09-06-2008, 08:00 AM   #42 (permalink)
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racism was systemic throughout this country and so i would have to believe a lot of black people believe that white people are still racist on some level

if they actually analyzed their own thinking they would probably mean that most white people are prejudiced atleast in some way


and if they analyzed their own thinking they would admit that most people operate or have operated on some kind of stereotype about some kind of people at some point in their lives
Racism does work both ways. Class structure is another form of discrimination and much more damaging and prevalent than racism.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:03 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Racism does work both ways. Class structure is another form of discrimination and much more damaging and prevalent than racism.
Yes absolutely.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:19 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Racism is working all ways as a black muslim sounding man beats the white establishment woman in election after election in traditional white bread homes like Iowa and beyond.





Racist fukkin pigs, sure Aly black man needs you to stand up for him else he is doomed.


BTW whatever you do, don't acknowledge how fukkin stupid you were for accusing the other guy of using a racist nickname when everyone on the planet uses the same one.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:38 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Racist fukkin pigs.

MOst racist post in the thread?
Hands down Alyignoramus
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Class structure is another form of discrimination

THat would be the class structuure that sees you living the same life as Bill Gates even though he did more good for the human race than Mother Theresa!??!!?!?!?

That class sturcture? You know the one that is not only the least racist in the history of the planet but the one people die to join every single day? Speaking of,

HOW THE FUKK IS IT THAT PEOPLE RISK THEIR LIVES, COME HERE WITH PENNIES, LINT IN THEIR POCKET NOT SPEAKING THE LANGAUGE AND SOMEHOW MANAGE TO MAKE A BETTER GO OF IT THAN THE DOMESTIC POOR?

Seems like another unanswerable question.

THat class structure?



How does that work exactly?

Eat at the same restaurants, you watching the same TV, driving the same cars,
getting medical care from the same providers. Kids goto the same schools, you take the same medicine have the same expected life span. Does Bill have some personal spacecraft or something?

No doubt there is a class structure problem in this country, those who actually work for a living enjoy hardly any benefit vs those that don't.
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Old 09-06-2008, 10:48 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Yes blacks only hang out in the city too. Too funny. And of course not in the white collar workforce

My highschool was 50% black

You just dont get it either. Its not about "sticking up" for anyone
81 % of the people that live in Detroit are black, and your a black apologist Aly.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:18 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Racist fukkin pigs.

MOst racist post in the thread?
Hands down Alyignoramus






THat would be the class structuure that sees you living the same life as Bill Gates even though he did more good for the human race than Mother Theresa!??!!?!?!?

That class sturcture? You know the one that is not only the least racist in the history of the planet but the one people die to join every single day? Speaking of,

HOW THE FUKK IS IT THAT PEOPLE RISK THEIR LIVES, COME HERE WITH PENNIES, LINT IN THEIR POCKET NOT SPEAKING THE LANGAUGE AND SOMEHOW MANAGE TO MAKE A BETTER GO OF IT THAN THE DOMESTIC POOR?

Seems like another unanswerable question.

THat class structure?



How does that work exactly?

Eat at the same restaurants, you watching the same TV, driving the same cars,
getting medical care from the same providers. Kids goto the same schools, you take the same medicine have the same expected life span. Does Bill have some personal spacecraft or something?

No doubt there is a class structure problem in this country, those who actually work for a living enjoy hardly any benefit vs those that don't.
Reading your crap proves my point.

Guy goes to a car dealership wearing worn work boots and disheveled. All the salesman ignore him. Customer finally says I'm here to buy a car, what do I have to do to get served? Pays (not finances) a brand new Cadillac Escalade. Guy was a mason. True story.

What would have happened had he gone in wearing an Armani suit, rolex watch and bling.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:35 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Reading your crap proves my point.

Guy goes to a car dealership wearing worn work boots and disheveled. All the salesman ignore him. Customer finally says I'm here to buy a car, what do I have to do to get served? Pays (not finances) a brand new Cadillac Escalade. Guy was a mason. True story.

What would have happened had he gone in wearing an Armani suit, rolex watch and bling.
Is there a point other then the salesmen are dummys?
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:35 AM   #49 (permalink)
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i dont understand the black apologist comment

its obvious that a lot of black men have been brought up without a father in the household

this is a fact

in a sense this is like starting a football game on your 5 yard line without a coach during the entire game

in their formative years they were not instilled with confidence and with pride-many of their fathers are in prison and or have been murdered

many have overcome this but many have not

that is how life goes-some overcome and some dont

no ideas from social scientists or academic people will change this

if a woman is raped repeatedly is she a victim

generally trauma does ensue-social scientist or not

the difficult thing is how does a victim not see himself or herself as a victim-such a perspective prevents healing
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:57 AM   #50 (permalink)
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i dont understand the black apologist comment

its obvious that a lot of black men have been brought up without a father in the household

this is a fact

in a sense this is like starting a football game on your 5 yard line without a coach during the entire game

in their formative years they were not instilled with confidence and with pride-many of their fathers are in prison and or have been murdered

many have overcome this but many have not

that is how life goes-some overcome and some dont

no ideas from social scientists or academic people will change this

if a woman is raped repeatedly is she a victim

generally trauma does ensue-social scientist or not

the difficult thing is how does a victim not see himself or herself as a victim-such a perspective prevents healing


Many have NOT overcome that, you and Aly comment on this subject from a academic point

of view, I comment from my life expierences, one is not better than the other just different.

You can go to A.A. meetings and make judgements,you can go to school near K and A in

Philly and see the despair and desperation, but until you actually have lived that life it is hard

to explain why people who are in that lifestyle OR have come out of that lifestyle don't give

2 schitts about the thoughts of the Alys of the world,he can apoligize for their behavior if

he wants BUT they don't want or need him to. Thats my opinion.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #51 (permalink)
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i know 1 person who came out of that world and is doing okay

brother went the wrong way and was murdered by 5 jamaican hit men

i assure you he has never used the term black apologist

he understands that yes his brother made poor choices

i dont care what people who came out of the quote ghetto think about aly

what does that have to do with anything

its like some woman in guatemala hated me because i was an american-3/4 of the men in her tribe were wiped out by american supported forces-she had a right to her feelings

various forms of trauma and poverty are not easy to overcome-if you think they are frankly you dont know what you are talking about



i am not excusing irresponsibilty but am simply explaining it

the clippers always lose-so do several other teams-i dont blame the players-i blame the organization
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