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to me this next article is really amazing-its dated 8/20/1998
Online NewsHour: Who Is Osama bin Laden -- August 20, 1998 |
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Hasn't this argument been hashed out enough?
Thread: no attack in 7 years. Why?
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Wasn't one enough?
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#34 (permalink) |
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Clinton tried taking out Bin Laden. Was accused of Wag the Dog remember?
To blame terrorism `100% on last couple of Presidents is assinine and ignorant. First Bush, Reagan, Carter and really any President back to 1948 have influenced Mideast situation. The worst attack came under current President. Even if someone is going to hold him completely blameless it is kind of weird to take the position that well we were only attacked once. As bigrun said isnt that enough? It could have been prevented regardless of what went down under Clinton. Bush ignored warnings. No amount of spin can change that
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i am not spinning anything
clinton didnt have the stones to make a serious attack on afghanistan-lob a couple of missles is not a real effort-in fact the interview said that the missle attack would probably not do the job he kept putting up with attack after attack its obvious that al queda became powerful and more confident under clinton it was growing stronger and stronger-and he knew it-cant spin that bush was a moron for not attacking afghanistan but really so was clinton-the interviewer said he was a real threat to our country it looks like they were aware of some possible attack but they didnt want to panic the country and disrupt the air line business |
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#36 (permalink) |
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these idealogical bull**** is so far out of grasp of caveman it is nauseating,
even if Israel did not exist the AQaeda attacks occurred because caveman doesn't like the western world encroaching in every corner of his cave, it is the proliferation of the computer chip that has put the western world in every corner of caveman's cave,` so lets blame Bill Gates and Intel! Be real, they perpetuated escalating attacks until someone actually had to do something about it, most of these attacks took place under Clinton. So lets pretend Bush could have prevented the house from burning down after it is 95% engulfed and your idiot is doing the equivalent of using a watering can to try and put it out. Which BTW does not change that the war in Iraq has lured all US hating POS the worldwide to blow themsselves up vs trained volunteers halfway around the glove vs flying planes into buildings here, tell me how much does Bill have to do with no large scale domestic attacks in 7 yrs?
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I do not agree at all.
The the Al Qaeda attacks started before the Gulf War, they directly correspond to the shrinking of the globe largely by technology. their intensity and destruction increases just abt parallel to increasing Intel's chip sales, I kid you not.
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Bush should have acted preemptively. He should have bombed all suspected terrorist cells regardless of international borders. At least then the moonbats would not be blaming him for 9/11(lol) because there would not have been one.
No, wait. He could have stopped it by gaining a better understanding of their plight and extending an olive leaf. September 11, 2001 was the result of political correctness gone global and maddening. The pandering and appeasing of evil puts you at their mercy. Identifying evil and treating it as evil is necessary. The "evil empire" was beat down. Now the "axis of evil" has been at least neutered. Pray fervently that the next president does not fail to discern evil.
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There has never been a group who perpetrated such escalating attacks directed soley at US interests but good try.
Have to conclude no attacks in 7 yrs is all coincidence. Afterall Saddam had nothing to do with terrorists, and the fact that they are blowing themselves up there vs here is just imaginary.
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Psssst idjit, under saddam there were no terrorists, he kept them out...they showed up shortly after we did....and it's not just themselves they are blowing up....we've been over this before....pay attention.....
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Am I the only one here that thinks if someone wants to carry out an attack they will? I get on a subway everyday while I'm temporarily living in NY...I carry a bag to work along with thousands of others. I've been randomly searched once in the 6 months I've been there, and I get on there every single day. It goes thru my mind many times, that if someone on this train wants to do something, they will and we're all f*cked. We were in living an era where you didn't need a ticket to go to the gate and see a loved one off or welcome someone home. It was a relaxed environment overall in this country. I not only blame Bush, but every single man that has held the leadership role in the white house. As an average american I didn't know what people were capable of, but surely there were many that knew this was a possibility. It didn't start with Bush, it just ended with him so he gets blamed as the bad guy. We lost as a country, not as Republicans or Democrats, we all lost together. When will this country actually unite and take responsibilty as a group?
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Bush ordered troops into Iraq with the understanding that Saddam violated A U.N. resolution banning WMD's. No WMD's found therefore U.S. is legally, morally and ethically bound to pull the **** out. But no, George changes horses in mid stream declaring that it's now about building a democracy. Only problem with that statement is that part of his GOP platform was "we don't want to be in the business of nation building". WTF. 650 billion wasted for what? And what of the troops maimed and killed. For what? And how many Iraqi civilians maimed, killed, or displaced, many taking refuge in other countries? And face it, there is no coalition. One by one these countries jumped ship. Pile after pile of George Bush bull****. But hey, who cares as long as him and his cronies get wealthy, right? |
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Excellent post....Short and right to the point...
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