Wealthy States Vote Democrat

[alysheba88]

Breakage brought up Intel and innovation. Why is it that virtually all of the wealthiest states vote Democrat in the National elections?

Why do creative technical minds live in states that vote Democrat?

Why are some of the poorest states GOP strongholds?

Yes bring up Texas. Which is ironic when you consider what kind of government oil dependent countries have.

Why do so many of my tax dollars go to GOP strongholds who cant support themselves? Who rely on welfare from the wealthier states?

If all these liberals are so bad why are they creating so much wealth and opportunity?

[Breakage]

Super rich liberals and inner city blight make the perfect combination for liberalism,


all those that don't give a **** abt tax rates.

in the former case use it to keep the rest of us down.


Find comfort you on the same side as brainless morons who make up Hollywood?

[Breakage]

Why is a vast majority of the square mileage of America red?


Must be all those rich people living in mansions on 2 acre tracts or something.

[alysheba88]

Cmon Break you can do better than that. What is going on in Silicon Valley? What about Seattle area? Where is the innovation coming from? More important who is stifling them? Who is stifling Steve Jobs?

[alysheba88]

And why do so many flock to Wall Street? And willingly choose to live in NY, NJ, CT?

If so onerous and stifling?

[Breakage]

without the urban poor every state in the union would be red.

your illusions in numerous posts now to tye contrary are idiotic at best.

sure pal, innovation follows high tax rates and high government regulation.

try welfare poor follow prospeperity and without paying an entire generation of people to vote democrat,

there would be no such party.

oh you mean NY would be blue without NYC?

oh you mean Cali would be blue without LA?

oh you mean Ill would be blue without Chicago?

oh you mean every red state is in peril due to burgeoning populations of poor in inner cities like Ohio with Cleveland and Cinncinnate,

mean like PA with Philly, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg.



your idiotic posts that somehow high amounts of government is responsible for prosperity given identical situations without high amounts of government are even beyond most liberal scumbag moron thinking.

[alysheba88]

Originally Posted by Breakage

without the urban poor every state in the union would be red.

your illusions in numerous posts now to tye contrary are idiotic at best.

sure pal, innovation follows high tax rates and high government regulation.

try welfare poor follow prospeperity and without paying an entire generation of people to vote democrat,

there would be no such party.

oh you mean NY would be blue without NYC?

oh you mean Cali would be blue without LA?

oh you mean Ill would be blue without Chicago?

oh you mean every red state is in peril due to burgeoning populations of poor in inner cities like Ohio with Cleveland and Cinncinnate,

mean like PA with Philly, Pittsburgh and Harrisburg.



your idiotic posts that somehow high amounts of government is responsible for prosperity given identical situations without high amounts of government are even beyond most liberal scumbag moron thinking.

Dont think the Insults are particularly helpful. Pretty sure I never said government was responsible. In fact im 100% sure. You and others have talked about stifling competition and the markets. And I asked if it was so stifling why was there so much wealth in these states. Why do so many creative thinkers live there.

Do you think Microsoft would have thrived if it started in poor state. In an area with no diversity and lower than average educated workforce? Even if taxes were lower?

Workers at the tech companies have improved working conditions for most white collar workers.

[alysheba88]

Do you think Buffet, Jobs and Gates are liberal scumbags?

[Breakage]

The insults will continue as long as you continue to assert that high government interference in the way of taxes and regulations does anything but hurt the human race.


Look China has had geometric growth the last 5yrs,
it is run via academic think tank,

please tell me one human advancing thing that has come out of that ****hole?

meanwhile when Japan was the cheap labor source, a closer to us free capitalist type system, what human advancing things came from there, a country 1/15th the size of China?
How abt sub compact cars? How abt minivans? How abt something called just in time inventory systems?


There is a 100% direct correlation since dirt turned brown that the lower the gov't interference the greater the prosperity and innovation and vice versa.


and yet here you are for abt the dozenth time intimating that this is not the case.

who spent more per person on education in the 20th century? the US or the USSR and where did all the innovation come from exactly?


Besides,
Silly you, the education, and the prosperity was there long before big government was.


Which do you think came first? Wall St to NYC or rampant big government liberalism?

everyone follows the money, the Microsofts are responsible for a better educated community,
not the result of one. If big government comes first,
please by all means tell me how big government paid for itself without big business in the first place?

Sorry the leeches follow the blood not vice versa.


and the money is leaving-record IPOS the last two years in Hong Kong and London, where Sarbanes/Oxley isn't present nor are other ridiculous reporting requirements. First time ever year over year IPOS were down in NY, managed to happen two years in a row and at a time when money was free.

[Breakage]

Do you think Buffet, Jobs and Gates are liberal scumbags?

People that use the tax code to maintain their own status while keeping the rest of us down,
to alleviate their own self loathing guilt and can afford any tax increase known to mankind,

aka the super rich liberal scumbag-Ted Turner, George Soros, Warren Buffet, most of Hollywood, the John Kerry's of the world-
are the most despicable people currently on planet earth.

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by Breakage

People that use the tax code to maintain their own status while keeping the rest of us down,
to alleviate their own self loathing guilt and can afford any tax increase known to mankind,

aka the super rich liberal scumbag-Ted Turner, George Soros, Warren Buffet, most of Hollywood, the John Kerry's of the world-
are the most despicable people currently on planet earth.

Who is keeping you or I down. I sure dont feel anyone is keeping me down other than me. This must be "the man" i hear so much about.

[Breakage]

THe higher the tax rate the harder it is to accumulate wealth and get ahead.

Sad I had to actually spell that out.






also the predispositon of this entire thread is somewhat ludicrous as all these wealthy states proclaimed as obviously democrat were mostly if not all republican when these money centers you are bandying abt came to being.

Silicon Valleys rise to fame came when? Somewhere around one of the two times Cali voted for Reagan.

[bullring]

wealthy people are smarter.

end of discussion.

if you are making 24k a year, you are a ****ing idiot. You also probably have a few guns, don't believe in dinosaurs and think that terrorists are gonna get cha.

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by Breakage

People that use the tax code to maintain their own status while keeping the rest of us down,
to alleviate their own self loathing guilt and can afford any tax increase known to mankind,

aka the super rich liberal scumbag-Ted Turner, George Soros, Warren Buffet, most of Hollywood, the John Kerry's of the world-
are the most despicable people currently on planet earth.

I don't think any on your list are above Bin-Laden or Pamela Smart.

[cre8flow]

Originally Posted by alysheba88

Breakage brought up Intel and innovation. Why is it that virtually all of the wealthiest states vote Democrat in the National elections?

Why do creative technical minds live in states that vote Democrat?

Why are some of the poorest states GOP strongholds?

creativity and business acumen are separate entities...

main focus for typical artist actor etc is to examine the craft he or she is involved with

most computer geeks were focused on the computer not the business of selling computers-they didnt have the desire/goal to have a computer in every house in america

lets examine appalachia-kentucky west virginia tennessee

the liberals generally have aimed at getting the urban and black vote-they are giving resources to the urban cities in exchange for the urban vote...and if you live in the suburbs you can still get to the hood in say at max 40 minutes

the dems and liberals in order to get the appalachian vote would have to travel a couple of hours to get to appalachia-the population is also far more diffused and so its financially inefficient to go after that vote-certainly any help or desperation up there is not under the eye of the press and therefore the people of this country


meanwhile the folks of appalachia know that the resources go to the urban areas and so why would you give your vote to the democrats

-the urban poor are being taken care of we are not-nor do we need their help-we do not agree with their immorality as we are moral

indeed there is no doubt a spirituality-ie a relation to god that exists when living in the mountains and less need for materialism

we do not agree with their inability to spend frugally and be economical as we are economical and simple people


meanwhile the truth is that appalachia is lacking resources and the people up there need just as much support as people in the ghetto

[alysheba88]

break- If you feel the only way to communicate is for insults to continue then no further point in discussing with you..

cre8flow- I believe all work is dignified and that no one should be looked down on. That money does not define anyone and that character and money are often as us unrelated as the sun and moon. It really bugs me to see how people with money treat people who dont have it. Really bothers me. My fav writer is Dickens could not do better than he did to discuss poverty and class. I do think Dems have had a hard time relating to non-urban poor and middle class. And shame on them. I do think more money goes to them then you might think. There is significant income redistribution from east and west states to mid west and south. The federal taxes I pay are far greater than amount NJ resident gets back in return. Other states get back far more than they put in

[Breakage]

Of course it really bothers you, you are a fukkin communist.

It really bothers me that know matter how hard I work I can't accumulate anything that every homey and rural hick manages to have.

It really fukkin bothers me that Wilma Mae Jackson complaining abt mortgage fraud is being interviewed on her $5000 leather couch with a plasma twice the size of mine in the background.

It really fukkin bothers me that I toil on a laptop computer that is 7yrs old,
while the local welfare office gets upgraded machines every three yrs.



It really fukkkin bothers me how the moronic idiots like you confiscate productive wealth from me to hand out as you see fit.



COngratulations!


8 yrs of posting,
making allegations,

idiotic delusional psychotic paranoia,

moronic assertions that the gov't is some grand arbiter.

and never, ever actually answering the tough questions.






Sharp posts here pal,

big government somehow leads to boundless prosperity and greater innovation.

wealthy states vote democrat when in reality it is the urban poor voting democrat and hardly wealthy states.






But the best of all-no matter what Northern Cali should create it's own marxist conclave and leave the rest of us alone.

You fukkin idiots that have been brainwashed there are absolutely, positively beyond any recovery.


You're a victim, big business exploits the **** out of you and liberal scumbag academia and gov't are yourt saviours.


goes right along with the sticks and stones, what happen Pal. liberal scumbags fail to teach the meaningless nature of words-

wear that perpetual victim uniform well, it fits your deluded perpective of reality perfectly,



as if I give a **** if another idiot who wants to loot and plunder my wealth to dole out as he see's fit responds to my posts.


It is fukkin hilarious-like you ever reponded with something substantive.

[Breakage]

and his post is incorrect.


the welfare state is the rural hillbilly over populating the planet with gov't dependent morons.

it is not urban blacks, I know this and surely you do,

yet of course you going to commiserate with any sort of proposed victimization whether it holds a grain of truth or not.


BTW the post was insult free,
but you have no answer, no responses, your usual idiotic predisposition is diametrically wrong,
and the child like grasp and perpetual denial of reality is tiring.

[cre8flow]

all i am saying is that appalachia is a major center of poverty

and that problems of the ghetto/city are more likely to atleast be ameliorated by government welfare

than the problems of appalachia

i am not saying taxes should be increased to support appalachia

i have a compassion for people especially children stuck in poverty

[alysheba88]

breakage, dont blame me that you dont make enough money to have a new computer or tv. Sounds like you need to make some more money dude. Might be a good idea to post less and work more? Just a thought. Maybe take up a collection here. Something. Sounding an awful lot like a whining victim. Why dont you work harder and make some more money? Happiness is not material goods by the way. I guess in your world calling people idiots, scumbags and communists is not being insulting. Cant you just have a civil discussion?

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by Breakage

Of course it really bothers you, you are a fukkin communist.

It really bothers me that know matter how hard I work I can't accumulate anything that every homey and rural hick manages to have.

It really fukkin bothers me that Wilma Mae Jackson complaining abt mortgage fraud is being interviewed on her $5000 leather couch with a plasma twice the size of mine in the background.

It really fukkin bothers me that I toil on a laptop computer that is 7yrs old,
while the local welfare office gets upgraded machines every three yrs.



It really fukkkin bothers me how the moronic idiots like you confiscate productive wealth from me to hand out as you see fit.



COngratulations!


8 yrs of posting,
making allegations,

idiotic delusional psychotic paranoia,

moronic assertions that the gov't is some grand arbiter.

and never, ever actually answering the tough questions.