Horse racing

[Breakage]

Will anyone else besides me ever figure out that the liberal scumbag states don't deserve horse racing?


AM I supposed to believe it is a coincidence that the most fukked up racing states right now are all bastions of liberal socialism by chance?

Some all star roster between NY, CALI, MD, NJ, MASS, MI,


meanwhile how is racing going in more conservative states like FLA, TEX, WV, ARK, DEL?

Ohio the only obvious one not doing better than the LS states?



So typical esp in a state set aside industry, they are corrupt regardless of political nature,
but the LS take it to unforeseen levels where they basically just suck the life out of entire industry then just move on to the next. THe posts in the other forum about the NJSEA are just more of the same. Would be why the government is worse than the mob, the mob knows not to run profitable enterprise into the groud-the government doesn't give a ****.

[Ocala Mike]

Well, you certainly have a screwed up racing situation in Florida, but it's been that way since I can remember. If the tracks are not bickering over dates (an old sore point down here but not so much lately), the horsemen are clamoring for higher purses, and all the venues want casino operations or card rooms.

Of course, Florida is hardly a liberal scumbag state like those others you mentioned. No state income tax, weak in the areas of public transportation and other services. Lots of anti-gambling conservative forces in the legislature, but they're gradually giving ground because their eyes light up over the revenue potential.


Ocala Mike

[Breakage]

Not even close to the ones I listed,
by comparison FLA racing is thriving.

JFC they just started running a new meet at HIA,
the pools at GP and TAM have been outstanding thus far this year.


The debatable ones are ILL and PA. ILL's health is debatable-the situation at Fairmount PArk is not healthy but otherwise racing seems to be doing OK.

PA the political leaning is debatable-racing is thriving.






slam dunk correlated-of one could bet on the success or failure of a some state's future involvement in racing,
ie Georgia talking about it-one only needs to figure out whether it is a liberal scumbag bastion or not to know the chances of success and failure.

[Masterquick]

You're a pretty fart smeller Brokeman. Only guy who ever figured out anything.

[Ocala Mike]

Originally Posted by Breakage

Not even close to the ones I listed,
by comparison FLA racing is thriving.

JFC they just started running a new meet at HIA,

At the risk of confusing you with facts, I'm sure you are aware that the "new meet at HIA" was a quarter-horse meet, and it was hardly a rousing success by any measure.

Also, unlike some of the states you listed, FLA racing is intimately connected to the FLA breeding industry which is in decline these days, as summarized in this recent article from the Ocala Star-Banner:

Florida thoroughbred breeders run into hard times | Ocala.com


Ocala Mike

[Breakage]

Last I looked HIA drew hundreds of thousands of fans to a broken down facility running terrible quarter horses. IT did better than any public projection.


This on top of the fact that probably no single track in the country is doing as relatively well as TAM-

and right GP's handle is nice.




HOw is FLA's breeding industry holding up to MD's which has basically disappeared?
Or to NJ's which is almost completely disappeared?



OUt of your mind as usual.

FLA racing is thriving compared to the tracks I listed, it not even close to debatable.

[alysheba88]

Yeah its why those same states are amongst the wealthiest

Two of top 5 wealthiest counties in NJ

Nonsense

[turfnsport]

Originally Posted by Breakage

HOw is FLA's breeding industry holding up to MD's which has basically disappeared?
Or to NJ's which is almost completely disappeared?



OUt of your mind as usual.

FLA racing is thriving compared to the tracks I listed, it not even close to debatable.

Maryland's downfall started with Robert Ehrlich in office, a Republican.

[Breakage]

Not only don't I agree that the decline started in 2003 but the party affiliation of one politician doesn't change much-NJ just elected a republican governor, that doesn't mean all of a sudden the state isn't neo communist.





Harder to figure which has become less relevant in racing in last 20yrs the breeding industry in NJ or the breeding industry in MD. THe relevance of both states actual racing is down to one claiming eminent domain over the Preakness and the other now being smeared in every press outlet as a welfare baby.

[Breakage]

the day NJ started the same is the day the decline began,
instead of evolving and offering slots-doing anything else but just being another east coast track in light of almost every other east coast track's purses rising geometrically is when the decline began.




Ocala Mike which article is accurate, that one or this one?

Auction points to comeback in horse racing industry


The Miami Herald
JOE RIMKUS JR. / MIAMI HERALD


An unnamed chestnut colored colt sold for $2.3 million in Miami Gardens Tuesday, the highest price paid for a thoroughbred at the annual auction since the recession buckled the horse-racing industry.

Those attending the Fasig-Tipton Two-Year-Olds in Training auction at the Calder Race Course & Casino welcomed the bid as a sign that wealthy gamblers have begun to reopen their purses after two years of declining sales.

Still, fewer horses were sold this year than in 2009, and overall sales revenue was down 10 percent, a sign that the horse racing industry is still struggling to recover from a drop in luxury and entertainment spending.

But compared to steep back-to-back declines of more than 25 percent in 2008 and 2009, this year's more modest drop in sales, coupled with the top bid, might signal a turnaround for the industry, which is worth more than $3 billion in Florida. Organizers also pointed to the median price as a bit of good news -- that indicator was up $50,000 to $200,000 after slipping two years in a row.

``It's been about as expected,'' said Boyd Browning, president of Fasig-Tipton, the company that hosts the event. ``The nice horses have sold well. It's not spectacular compared to some of the previous years, but it's what we expected.''

The horse racing industry has suffered nationwide during the economic downturn, with overall gross purses, or prize money, from races down 5.7 percent last year, according to Equibase. At last year's Calder auction, total sales dropped 25.4 percent to $26.1 million, down significantly from 2006, when a record-breaking auction boosted sales to $62.1 million.

But buyers have begun to warm up to the idea of shelling out hundreds of thousands -- and sometimes millions -- of dollars on a carefully bred racehorses that could yield back multiple times over on the racetrack and in the breeding shed.

Tuesday's top-selling horse was a half-brother to Funny Cide, who nearly won racing's Triple Crown in 2003, and could earn millions as a sire. The horse was purchased by Colorado-based horse training company Stonestreet Stables.

Tim Ice, trainer of last year's top 3-year-old, Summer Bird, had his eye on Horse #210 at Tuesday's auction. Ice said he wasn't expecting any huge bargains, despite the down economy. He planned on shelling out between $150,000 and $200,000 for the horse during the auction, which brought together investors, trainers and sellers.

The horse he was looking at, a half-brother to 2005's top 3-year-old, Afleet Alex, sold to another buyer for $300,000.

Nick de Meric, who owns a horse brokerage in Ocala, sold two horses at competitive prices, but left with two unsold colts. He said that shows things are getting better but the industry is far from out of the woods.

Richard Hancock, executive vice president of the Florida Thoroughbred Breeders' and Owners' Association, said he would be monitoring the outcome of Tuesday's auction, which he called a ``barometer'' of the industry.

``The Florida industry I think is poised to have a pretty good recovery and come back,'' he said

the industry, which is worth more than $3 billion in Florida.

THe overall agribusiness was once worth billions in MD and NJ too.

[Masterquick]

About Us

The PTHA works hard to protect and provide for the Philadelphia Park horsemen through the guarantee of live racing, increased purses, and health care for its families. Through the efforts of the PTHA and the track management, thoroughbred racing in the state of Pennsylvania has undergone many positive changes in the last year. Philadelphia Park has been recognized throughout the industry as the starting point for stricter medication rules.
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The last sentence above is pretty funny as some of the most notorious juicers practice their trade there.

[Breakage]

In June 1994, the Delaware General Assembly passed H.B. 628,
The Horse Racing Redevelopment Act, legalizing slot machine gambling at
Delaware racetracks.

De Francis wants to cut races
By Ross Peddicord | Ross Peddicord , Sun Staff Writer | May 27, 1995
The most dramatic jolt yet to Maryland thoroughbred racing's live product occurred yesterday when Pimlico/Laurel operator Joe De Francis unveiled what he termed "a temporary plan" that would reduce weekday cards to seven live races when Laurel Park opens June 13.As many as six races a week could be cut under the proposal, which calls for a minimum of 42 live races a week.Last Saturday's record-setting Preakness notwithstanding, De Francis said the daily amount wagered in Maryland on Pimlico's live card has plummeted nearly 20 percent since the spring meet began April 4, corresponding to small fields that, he said, "have had, on dozens of occasions, six horses or less."



-further evidence that less leads to less not more.

[bullring]

Slots killed racing and breeding in Maryland.

I thought this was common knowledge?

[Ocala Mike]

Thanks for posting that article, Breakage. Could be that we're bouncing off a bottom now, and the recovery figures to start at the top end with Fasig-Tipton rather than OBS. We're having a sale here next Tues., 3/16; stay tuned.

Ocala Mike

[alysheba88]

Originally Posted by Breakage

Not only don't I agree that the decline started in 2003 but the party affiliation of one politician doesn't change much-NJ just elected a republican governor, that doesn't mean all of a sudden the state isn't neo communist.





Harder to figure which has become less relevant in racing in last 20yrs the breeding industry in NJ or the breeding industry in MD. THe relevance of both states actual racing is down to one claiming eminent domain over the Preakness and the other now being smeared in every press outlet as a welfare baby.

In case you haven noticed NY has had Republican Governors, Senators and Mayors in recent years

More often then not actually

And NJ has had several Republican Governors as well. But again dont ever let facts get in the way of a good rant

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