Synthetics and the dead rail

[Breakage]

I posted a couple of times I thought this was a purposeful ploy by the synthetic track pushers to reduce crowding in the turns, which reduces contact and potential injury.
FIrst time I was being funny, second time I was being half serious-this time I am convinced.

I think at this point this theory has to be accepted as fact.

In part due to the quick pick story.
Someone looked at those tickets and it was obvious there was a strong chance of a problem.




It is the same with the synthetic surfaces and the dead rail.

It is obvious they are doing something on purpose at this point,
you can't pervert physics for so long by chance. It is just impossible,
the sport is too competitive and physics are too constant. Physics says shortes route fastest time, the sport says horses are closely matched in the races-

unless man is in there f'in things up how can the inside be consistently slower on these surfaces? to the point that dead rail or no bias is abt 100X more likely than live rail?

It is ironic now that the breakdown rates on synthetic surfaces are approaching dirt surfaces,
because without this crux-it is likely that the breakdown rates would be higher on the fake stuff than on the real stuff. In fact not only is it likely, with the field sizes that some of the fake tracks have drawn the crush inside would most certainly have resulted in more catastrophis injuries.




*BTW for purposes of above CUSHION only counts for the part of the meet it actually exists on the track. Tapeta and Poly don't seem to wear off or down.

[cre8flow]

have to agree with this thread

[Ralph the Cat]

Originally Posted by Breakage

I posted a couple of times I thought this was a purposeful ploy by the synthetic track pushers to reduce crowding in the turns, which reduces contact and potential injury.
FIrst time I was being funny, second time I was being half serious-this time I am convinced.

I think at this point this theory has to be accepted as fact.

In part due to the quick pick story.
Someone looked at those tickets and it was obvious there was a strong chance of a problem.




It is the same with the synthetic surfaces and the dead rail.

It is obvious they are doing something on purpose at this point,
you can't pervert physics for so long by chance. It is just impossible,
the sport is too competitive and physics are too constant. Physics says shortes route fastest time, the sport says horses are closely matched in the races-

unless man is in there f'in things up how can the inside be consistently slower on these surfaces? to the point that dead rail or no bias is abt 100X more likely than live rail?

It is ironic now that the breakdown rates on synthetic surfaces are approaching dirt surfaces,
because without this crux-it is likely that the breakdown rates would be higher on the fake stuff than on the real stuff. In fact not only is it likely, with the field sizes that some of the fake tracks have drawn the crush inside would most certainly have resulted in more catastrophis injuries.




*BTW for purposes of above CUSHION only counts for the part of the meet it actually exists on the track. Tapeta and Poly don't seem to wear off or down.

The only synthetic track that didnt show an improvement with breakdowns was Hollywood Park... or was it Delmar?... I try not to pay attention to Cal racing... where we keep the "unique" trainers with their "young" and "over trained" horses...

[ed584]

HUH?

[mfactor]

Originally Posted by Ralph the Cat

The only synthetic track that didnt show an improvement with breakdowns was Hollywood Park... or was it Delmar?... I try not to pay attention to Cal racing... where we keep the "unique" trainers with their "young" and "over trained" horses...

Huh??

[Ralph the Cat]

Originally Posted by Breakage

It is ironic now that the breakdown rates on synthetic surfaces are approaching dirt surfaces,
because without this crux-it is likely that the breakdown rates would be higher on the fake stuff than on the real stuff. In fact not only is it likely, with the field sizes that some of the fake tracks have drawn the crush inside would most certainly have resulted in more catastrophis injuries.

this is the info I was refering too... load of crap... California hasnt shown much of an improvement over synthetic, although it still showed some improvement, but else where, it has shown dramatic results in protecting the animal... California based trainers are known for overtraining young horses... the 2 yo these guys have out there are as big as 4 yo colts, they are over trained and loaded with crap before they ever even race, all of it is done so they can put in extremely fast times at sales like the barrettes sale..etc as young 2 yo... by the time they hit the tracks, they are vulnerable... I've never seen so many young horses that are crippled, most of them are in California, where they dont breed for speed, but train for speed... the comment ..."It is ironic now that the breakdown rates on synthetic surfaces are approaching dirt surfaces"... is not true...

[Breakage]

100% true, the breakdown rate on every fake track in the country is going one way-towards what it is on dirt.

Every single fake track in the country's breakdown rate has risen in every subsequent season of racing. 100% proof that the scumbags are doing exactly as predicted,
the chances of this happening at random are abt 1billion to one or slightly less than the chances of finding a fake surface with a fast rail.



They could run on pillows until you change the mindset of the scumbag trainer you not changing anything for the betterment of the animal.