Does this race look fair? - Trackchampion Handicapping Contests For Horse Bettors

billrock · 08-12-2008, 04:43 PM

RACE: 10 - 08/15/2008 - VERNON DOWNS - PURSE: $ 30,000 - CLASS: 3&4 YrOpen
GAIT: Trot - Late Betting - DIST: 1 Mile - STRS: 5
PP Horse 2008 Year to Date Driver Clm. Med.
Sts W P S Time Earnings
1 STARS AND SITES 11 5 1 1 1:57.0F $ 32,970 Bruce D Clarke $ 0
2 UNSHAKEABLE 15 5 1 2 1:56.3S $ 29,126 Howard W Okusko $ 0
3 FOREVER BACHELOR 18 2 2 2 1:57.1F $ 27,035 Luke Plano $ 0 L
4 SUMMERTIME YANKEE 17 5 6 2 1:54.4M $ 81,820 Jim D Raymer $ 0
5 DEWEYCHEATUMNHOWE 5 5 0 0 1:52.0M $1,017,055 Raymond W Schnittker $ 0

The Hambo winner vs. four other horses trying to get 2nd.

Hoberz · 08-12-2008, 06:08 PM

Haha, oh well -- thats racing. I think the class should have been 3-4YO Open Handicap, since Dewy was automatically assigned the 5 hole.

The Giss · 08-13-2008, 10:51 AM

Should have done an Aussie on him and assigned a twenty yard handicap.

gallobluechip · 08-13-2008, 01:15 PM

The REAL Question is why on EARTH would Ray Schnittker race for a pitance of $15,000 at Vernon Downs on Friday Night instead of taking home $250,000 at Chester on Sunday?????

I'll assume since he has already made almost 2 million that he probably doesn't need the money??????

Of course, If your THE CO-OWNER, don't you need to ask this question?????

Later
Gallo

billrock · 08-15-2008, 02:44 PM

The program says Exacta and Pick-3 wagering only. Guess that means there's no Win wagering.

don61111 · 08-17-2008, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gallobluechip

The REAL Question is why on EARTH would Ray Schnittker race for a pitance of $15,000 at Vernon Downs on Friday Night instead of taking home $250,000 at Chester on Sunday?????

I'll assume since he has already made almost 2 million that he probably doesn't need the money??????

Of course, If your THE CO-OWNER, don't you need to ask this question?????

Later
Gallo

The only thing I can guess is he (they) would rather ride the undefeated streak as long as possible. Even if he doesn't like the 5/8 track they make a bunch more money just hitting the board. In fairness the hambo is a tough couple weeks and they might have just wanted a breather. Dewey was used hard in the big race just to win. Watch the fillie (Snow White) on Sunday. Not sure who else is entered but she had a soft week after missing the oaks.

mfactor · 08-17-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billrock

The program says Exacta and Pick-3 wagering only. Guess that means there's no Win wagering.

I don't remember ever seeing a wagering race with no win bets accepted.

The Giss · 08-18-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mfactor

I don't remember ever seeing a wagering race with no win bets accepted.

Me neither. Why not just bar him? Of course, that's always an iffy propsiiton. Anybody remember Busy Life at Delaware many years ago? Barred and got beat.

tz. · 08-18-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Giss

Me neither. Why not just bar him?

Because if you bar him, as per NYSRWB rules, you lose the exacta due to having only 4 wagering interests available. If you don't bar him and allow win wagering, then you open yourself to a huge minus pool. Difficult situation.

08-12-2008, 04:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
billrock Status: Grade II Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back in History Posts: 1,839	Does this race look fair? RACE: 10 - 08/15/2008 - VERNON DOWNS - PURSE: $ 30,000 - CLASS: 3&4 YrOpen GAIT: Trot - Late Betting - DIST: 1 Mile - STRS: 5 PP Horse 2008 Year to Date Driver Clm. Med. Sts W P S Time Earnings 1 STARS AND SITES 11 5 1 1 1:57.0F $ 32,970 Bruce D Clarke $ 0 2 UNSHAKEABLE 15 5 1 2 1:56.3S $ 29,126 Howard W Okusko $ 0 3 FOREVER BACHELOR 18 2 2 2 1:57.1F $ 27,035 Luke Plano $ 0 L 4 SUMMERTIME YANKEE 17 5 6 2 1:54.4M $ 81,820 Jim D Raymer $ 0 5 DEWEYCHEATUMNHOWE 5 5 0 0 1:52.0M $1,017,055 Raymond W Schnittker $ 0 The Hambo winner vs. four other horses trying to get 2nd.

08-12-2008, 06:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hoberz Status: Grade III Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 647	Haha, oh well -- thats racing. I think the class should have been 3-4YO Open Handicap, since Dewy was automatically assigned the 5 hole. __________________

08-13-2008, 10:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
The Giss Status: Grade III Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cleveland Posts: 513	Should have done an Aussie on him and assigned a twenty yard handicap.

08-13-2008, 01:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
gallobluechip Status: Grade III Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 950	The REAL Question is why on EARTH would Ray Schnittker race for a pitance of $15,000 at Vernon Downs on Friday Night instead of taking home $250,000 at Chester on Sunday????? I'll assume since he has already made almost 2 million that he probably doesn't need the money?????? Of course, If your THE CO-OWNER, don't you need to ask this question????? Later Gallo

08-15-2008, 02:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
billrock Status: Grade II Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back in History Posts: 1,839	The program says Exacta and Pick-3 wagering only. Guess that means there's no Win wagering.