CHARITABLE MAN....

cobra · 03-15-2009, 07:54 PM

THE BEAST OF THE EAST IS HEADED TO THE BLUE GRASS AT KEENELAND ON APRIL 11 AND THEN STRAIGHT TO THE GATE IN LOUISVILLE. BET EARLY BOYS AND GIRLS BECAUSE HE IS 40 AND 50-1 IN MOST PLACES.

Clay13 · 03-16-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cobra

THE BEAST OF THE EAST IS HEADED TO THE BLUE GRASS AT KEENELAND ON APRIL 11 AND THEN STRAIGHT TO THE GATE IN LOUISVILLE. BET EARLY BOYS AND GIRLS BECAUSE HE IS 40 AND 50-1 IN MOST PLACES.

Good breeding and nice dossage numbers but has he been out this year, all I saw was two out and both of those sprints which he beat FF in the 7 flg race.

cobra · 03-16-2009, 12:15 PM

He has been working out at palm meadows since early february and he will be returning in the blue grass at keeneland on april 11th and then he will be running for the roses...

Masterquick · 03-16-2009, 05:57 PM

150k in graded earnings, hasn't raced since Belmont Futurity last fall. It will be tough for him to make the Derby.

cobra · 03-16-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterquick

150k in graded earnings, hasn't raced since Belmont Futurity last fall. It will be tough for him to make the Derby.

I have a couple of dollars that I would bet that he makes the derby field after he rolls in the blue grass at keeneland although he only needs to run third in that race to make the derby field. I already bet him in the futures for the derby in January (80-1) and he is currently 40 to 50-1 to win the derby.

cobra · 03-16-2009, 06:36 PM

I think that those of you who can watch replays should pull Charitable Man's two races Saratoga August 10th race two and Belmont Sept 13th race seven.

Masterquick · 03-16-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cobra

I have a couple of dollars that I would bet that he makes the derby field after he rolls in the blue grass at keeneland although he only needs to run third in that race to make the derby field. I already bet him in the futures for the derby in January (80-1) and he is currently 40 to 50-1 to win the derby.

That's a nice price, but where the hell has he been since the fall ? Was he hurt ?

cre8flow · 03-16-2009, 07:10 PM

YouTube - Charitable Man - Maiden Race

cre8flow · 03-16-2009, 07:16 PM

YouTube - 2008 Belmont Futurity - Charitable Man

cobra · 03-16-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterquick

That's a nice price, but where the hell has he been since the fall ? Was he hurt ?

He had a saucer fracture and they decided to not run in the breeders cup and wait for the triple crown races..

cobra · 03-31-2009, 09:15 AM

Bullet work over the weekend at palm meadows 5F 59 4/5 Handily before leaving for keeneland. All systems go!!!!

Masterquick · 03-31-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cobra

Bullet work over the weekend at palm meadows 5F 59 4/5 Handily before leaving for keeneland. All systems go!!!!

Has he ever raced on a synth surface ?

cobra · 03-31-2009, 06:10 PM

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Has he ever raced on a synth surface ?

No, he broke his maiden at saratoga and won the belmont futurity.

cobra · 05-09-2009, 08:03 PM

HE'S BACK BOYS AND GIRLS. I THINK HIS TRAINER MADE A BIG MISTAKE RUNNING HIM ON THAT POLY **** (BLUE GRASS) WHEN HE HAD ENOUGH STAKES EARNING'S $150,000 AT THE TIME TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE DERBY. I HAVE THOUGHT ALL ALONG THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE YEAR OLD'S

Masterquick · 05-10-2009, 06:41 AM

He looked good yesterday. Probable chalk for the Belmont, especially if the Bird doesn't fly away with the Preakness.

cre8flow · 05-10-2009, 06:44 AM

its not difficult being one of the best of this crop

not sold on the animal

would love to bet against this horse if fav in the travers

cobra · 05-10-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

its not difficult being one of the best of this crop

not sold on the animal

would love to bet against this horse if fav in the travers

Time will tell my friend it always does and I have a feeling you will be buying in after the belmont.

cre8flow · 05-10-2009, 09:47 AM

peter pan is a fake race and this one had a superhot pace

however

horse shows good acceleration and there isnt much speed with these animnals

ed584 · 05-10-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

peter pan is a fake race and this one had a superhot pace

however

horse shows good acceleration and there isnt much speed with these animnals

Fake race??

cobra · 05-10-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

peter pan is a fake race and this one had a superhot pace

however

horse shows good acceleration and there isnt much speed with these animnals

The final time of 1:47.13 - when converted to fifths - tied Coastal's time of 1:47 for the third fastest Peter Pan from 54 runnings at the 1 1/8-mile distance. Coastal won the 1979 Belmont Stakes, denying Spectacular Bid a Triple Crown. Your right again he ran real slow and is nothing special. LOL.. By the way he was chasing the pace setter all the way around the track and when imperial council who got the trip of his life came up to challenge charitable man used him like toilet paper.

cre8flow · 05-10-2009, 10:28 AM

i didnt say he ran slow did i

i said he showed good acceleration

i said the peter pan race is a fake race

and i know its fake race
since 1980 i dont believe that 1 peter pan winner has won the travers

not saying it cant happen

but if he is fav i am going against

cobra · 05-10-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

i didnt say he ran slow did i

i said he showed good acceleration

i said the peter pan race is a fake race

and i know its fake race
since 1980 i dont believe that 1 peter pan winner has won the travers

not saying it cant happen

but if he is fav i am going against

WHAT IS THE OBSESSION WITH THE TRAVERS WHICH IS ANOTHER THREE MONTHS AWAY. NOBODY KNOWS WHO WILL EVEN RUN IN A RACE THREE MONTHS FROM NOW.

cre8flow · 05-10-2009, 03:37 PM

why do we make a big deal about the travers

the problem is we dont emphasize it enough

we emphasize speed-because trainers no longer want to train-juice them with clem

we need to emphasize more distance racing

ed584 · 05-10-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

why do we make a big deal about the travers

the problem is we dont emphasize it enough

we emphasize speed-because trainers no longer want to train-juice them with clem

we need to emphasize more distance racing

So the goal is to drop sprinters..OK ..Will get right on it.

My favorite distance is 6 furs ..Really Gonna miss em...

cre8flow · 05-10-2009, 03:59 PM

typical response

lukas wanted the derby at 9f

there should be a better balance

that is all i am saying

ed584 · 05-10-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

typical response

lukas wanted the derby at 9f

there should be a better balance

that is all i am saying

Ok ..How`s about the distance of most stakes races was set many years ago and I really don`t believe there changing any time soon. There's handicappers that prefer both short and longer races. Why should there be more distance horses than sprinters. it`s a personal preference ..I make more money on sprints so I hope the breeders keep producing great ones.

cre8flow · 05-10-2009, 04:47 PM

you look at a card and sometimes there is 1 route race

you need some balance

its like a diet-you should not eat 1 thing too much

colt/horse sprinters to filly/mare routers is good

you will ruin the breed

no different than if somebody was to try and breed only stamina horses

it would be bad for the game and the animal-and i would object loudly

its already becoming cheaper

am glad you make money betting sprinters

but

frankly what you want is not relevant to what the game needs

that is why the game has gone south-people only thinking money-sell cheap juiced up animals

just like the clowns that are trying to block ra from running

Masterquick · 05-10-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

typical response

lukas wanted the derby at 9f

there should be a better balance

that is all i am saying

Lukas wanted the Derby at 9f ?
Where did you get that from ?

ed584 · 05-10-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cre8flow

you look at a card and sometimes there is 1 route race

you need some balance

its like a diet-you should not eat 1 thing too much

colt/horse sprinters to filly/mare routers is good

you will ruin the breed

no different than if somebody was to try and breed only stamina horses

it would be bad for the game and the animal-and i would object loudly

its already becoming cheaper

am glad you make money betting sprinters

but

frankly what you want is not relevant to what the game needs

that is why the game has gone south-people only thinking money-sell cheap juiced up animals

just like the clowns that are trying to block ra from running

Know sense debating a brick wall..That also brings little relevance to the game.

cobra · 05-16-2009, 05:47 PM

My man "charitable man" is going to be wearing a latex condom if they bring Rachel Alexandra over for the belmont stakes so he will not be the first to get rachel pregnant. I am sure Mr. Jackson will like that honor to go to curlin. LMAO

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cobra Status: Grade III Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 962	HE'S BACK BOYS AND GIRLS. I THINK HIS TRAINER MADE A BIG MISTAKE RUNNING HIM ON THAT POLY **** (BLUE GRASS) WHEN HE HAD ENOUGH STAKES EARNING'S $150,000 AT THE TIME TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE DERBY. I HAVE THOUGHT ALL ALONG THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE YEAR OLD'S Last edited by cobra : 05-09-2009 at 08:07 PM.

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cobra Status: Grade III Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 962	He has been working out at palm meadows since early february and he will be returning in the blue grass at keeneland on april 11th and then he will be running for the roses...

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Masterquick Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Delta Posts: 24,024	150k in graded earnings, hasn't raced since Belmont Futurity last fall. It will be tough for him to make the Derby.

03-16-2009, 06:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
cobra Status: Grade III Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 962	I think that those of you who can watch replays should pull Charitable Man's two races Saratoga August 10th race two and Belmont Sept 13th race seven.

03-16-2009, 07:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	YouTube - 2008 Belmont Futurity - Charitable Man

03-31-2009, 09:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
cobra Status: Grade III Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 962	Bullet work over the weekend at palm meadows 5F 59 4/5 Handily before leaving for keeneland. All systems go!!!!

05-10-2009, 06:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
Masterquick Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Delta Posts: 24,024	He looked good yesterday. Probable chalk for the Belmont, especially if the Bird doesn't fly away with the Preakness.

05-10-2009, 06:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	its not difficult being one of the best of this crop not sold on the animal would love to bet against this horse if fav in the travers

05-10-2009, 09:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	peter pan is a fake race and this one had a superhot pace however horse shows good acceleration and there isnt much speed with these animnals

05-10-2009, 10:28 AM	#21 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	i didnt say he ran slow did i i said he showed good acceleration i said the peter pan race is a fake race and i know its fake race since 1980 i dont believe that 1 peter pan winner has won the travers not saying it cant happen but if he is fav i am going against

05-10-2009, 03:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	why do we make a big deal about the travers the problem is we dont emphasize it enough we emphasize speed-because trainers no longer want to train-juice them with clem we need to emphasize more distance racing

05-10-2009, 03:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	typical response lukas wanted the derby at 9f there should be a better balance that is all i am saying

05-10-2009, 04:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
cre8flow Status: Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,795	you look at a card and sometimes there is 1 route race you need some balance its like a diet-you should not eat 1 thing too much colt/horse sprinters to filly/mare routers is good you will ruin the breed no different than if somebody was to try and breed only stamina horses it would be bad for the game and the animal-and i would object loudly its already becoming cheaper am glad you make money betting sprinters but frankly what you want is not relevant to what the game needs that is why the game has gone south-people only thinking money-sell cheap juiced up animals just like the clowns that are trying to block ra from running

05-16-2009, 05:47 PM	#30 (permalink)
cobra Status: Grade III Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 962	My man "charitable man" is going to be wearing a latex condom if they bring Rachel Alexandra over for the belmont stakes so he will not be the first to get rachel pregnant. I am sure Mr. Jackson will like that honor to go to curlin. LMAO